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	<description>Mid Twenties Muslim Convert Lady</description>
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		<title>By: MMB</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>MMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wa alikum salem Safiya.  Appologies,  yes my wishes were guided towards Amira.

Whilst I don&#039;t agree with some of the things the people on the show were doing, I am happy that the &#039;TV world&#039; have given some decent airtime to Islam and have &#039;tried&#039; to show Islam in a possitive light.  Remember, to the non-muslim viewers, seeing that muslims in other countries are quite similar to them in their actions may go some way towards easing hostilities slightly.

Also, does anyone know if the series has ended?  I noticed it&#039;s not scheduled for next week.

Jezakallah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wa alikum salem Safiya.  Appologies,  yes my wishes were guided towards Amira.</p>
<p>Whilst I don&#8217;t agree with some of the things the people on the show were doing, I am happy that the &#8216;TV world&#8217; have given some decent airtime to Islam and have &#8216;tried&#8217; to show Islam in a possitive light.  Remember, to the non-muslim viewers, seeing that muslims in other countries are quite similar to them in their actions may go some way towards easing hostilities slightly.</p>
<p>Also, does anyone know if the series has ended?  I noticed it&#8217;s not scheduled for next week.</p>
<p>Jezakallah</p>
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		<title>By: Safiya Outlines</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Safiya Outlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam Alaikum MMB - I&#039;m not exactly sure who your comment is aimed at. Reading through it, I guess it&#039;s aimed at Amira, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam Alaikum MMB &#8211; I&#8217;m not exactly sure who your comment is aimed at. Reading through it, I guess it&#8217;s aimed at Amira, right?</p>
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		<title>By: MMB</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>MMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one thing that all muslims should remember, whether they are old or young, male or female, from whichever part of the world you were born or live; Islam is a religion and a way of life.  Fashion has nothing to do with religion, but if you want to confuse the two then I have to say it is possible to look good and keep yourself covered.  I became a muslim when I was 24 (which I certainly don&#039;t consider old).  I still wore fashionable clothes and am currently an executive in an international company.  Obviously I don&#039;t come to work in an Abaya, I wear professional clothes that &#039;hijab&#039;; and I don&#039;t look like an old woman.

I hope that as you grow (inshallah) you have the courage to be your own person and not necessarily &#039;fall in with the crowd&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one thing that all muslims should remember, whether they are old or young, male or female, from whichever part of the world you were born or live; Islam is a religion and a way of life.  Fashion has nothing to do with religion, but if you want to confuse the two then I have to say it is possible to look good and keep yourself covered.  I became a muslim when I was 24 (which I certainly don&#8217;t consider old).  I still wore fashionable clothes and am currently an executive in an international company.  Obviously I don&#8217;t come to work in an Abaya, I wear professional clothes that &#8216;hijab&#8217;; and I don&#8217;t look like an old woman.</p>
<p>I hope that as you grow (inshallah) you have the courage to be your own person and not necessarily &#8216;fall in with the crowd&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kylie Johnston</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Kylie Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would really like to join this discussion if I may. 

I am both heartened and dismayed by some of the very passionate reactions to Amani Zain&#039;s presentation of life as a Muslim woman in Women in Black. And I note that the focus of criticism appears to revolve largely around the religious aspect - how it is to be a MUSLIM woman, rather than, for example, a WOMAN of Islam. This is an emphasis I find intriguing, since I confess, I am not Muslim, in fact I don&#039;t have a religion at all, I&#039;m an aethist, and therefore find myself relating primarily to the Women in Black series, and to presenter Amani, as a woman rather than anything else. From this position it opens up a subject and a world to me, and thus, to a degree, demystifies it for me. I embrace this. And to be fair, I sense that I am intended to be more the target audience for this series  than the average Muslim woman, which might go some way to answering those comments that suggest the series is &#039;lightweight&#039;. At any rate, I have really enjoyed it - and if it hadn&#039;t been made and shown, then I wouldn&#039;t have had the opportunity of engaging in this debate with you all, and I appreciate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would really like to join this discussion if I may. </p>
<p>I am both heartened and dismayed by some of the very passionate reactions to Amani Zain&#8217;s presentation of life as a Muslim woman in Women in Black. And I note that the focus of criticism appears to revolve largely around the religious aspect &#8211; how it is to be a MUSLIM woman, rather than, for example, a WOMAN of Islam. This is an emphasis I find intriguing, since I confess, I am not Muslim, in fact I don&#8217;t have a religion at all, I&#8217;m an aethist, and therefore find myself relating primarily to the Women in Black series, and to presenter Amani, as a woman rather than anything else. From this position it opens up a subject and a world to me, and thus, to a degree, demystifies it for me. I embrace this. And to be fair, I sense that I am intended to be more the target audience for this series  than the average Muslim woman, which might go some way to answering those comments that suggest the series is &#8216;lightweight&#8217;. At any rate, I have really enjoyed it &#8211; and if it hadn&#8217;t been made and shown, then I wouldn&#8217;t have had the opportunity of engaging in this debate with you all, and I appreciate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke AKA Ummbadier</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke AKA Ummbadier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 21:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember at 15 having a very limited view of what &quot;old&quot; was. Even recently I was chastised by an &quot;elder&quot; for thinking someone must be very old as I thought they must be at least over 60! LOL at myself. You know Amira, many converts are told by non-Muslims that they converted so young (early twenties) that they surely could not have known what they were getting into and have made a rash an unwise mistake--do you agree with them? Getting older and wiser has benefits, alhumdiallah. 
Why shouldn&#039;t Muslims be shown drinking, flirting, dancing, etc? Because we should cover our own sins and the sins of others. The attitude &quot;They do it, so why not show it&quot; is only a dangerous step away from &quot;They do it, why shouldn&#039;t I?&quot; 
I especially like this comment about making one yerself--that is exactly what sisters are doing with the WWW, masha Allah. I converted a little over ten years ago after being so impressed with the websites of Muslim sisters and teens all over the world, may Allah reward them ameen.
Of course, Zain is being exploited by non-Muslim producers. Did anyone else cringe at her admittal that she wanted to be an actress--well someone found a way to use her. Who would want to produce a factual, well-thought look at Muslim Women that would play in mainstream markets? That just doesn&#039;t sell. Documentaries are boring and obscure to mainstream society. Even here in the US a show was produced by public television that seemed as if it may have been well-thought, but it was subsequently pulled, so we can&#039;t be sure how &quot;good&quot; of an expose it was. 
Keeping the focus on wiser.
Love and Peace,
~Brooke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember at 15 having a very limited view of what &#8220;old&#8221; was. Even recently I was chastised by an &#8220;elder&#8221; for thinking someone must be very old as I thought they must be at least over 60! LOL at myself. You know Amira, many converts are told by non-Muslims that they converted so young (early twenties) that they surely could not have known what they were getting into and have made a rash an unwise mistake&#8211;do you agree with them? Getting older and wiser has benefits, alhumdiallah.<br />
Why shouldn&#8217;t Muslims be shown drinking, flirting, dancing, etc? Because we should cover our own sins and the sins of others. The attitude &#8220;They do it, so why not show it&#8221; is only a dangerous step away from &#8220;They do it, why shouldn&#8217;t I?&#8221;<br />
I especially like this comment about making one yerself&#8211;that is exactly what sisters are doing with the WWW, masha Allah. I converted a little over ten years ago after being so impressed with the websites of Muslim sisters and teens all over the world, may Allah reward them ameen.<br />
Of course, Zain is being exploited by non-Muslim producers. Did anyone else cringe at her admittal that she wanted to be an actress&#8211;well someone found a way to use her. Who would want to produce a factual, well-thought look at Muslim Women that would play in mainstream markets? That just doesn&#8217;t sell. Documentaries are boring and obscure to mainstream society. Even here in the US a show was produced by public television that seemed as if it may have been well-thought, but it was subsequently pulled, so we can&#8217;t be sure how &#8220;good&#8221; of an expose it was.<br />
Keeping the focus on wiser.<br />
Love and Peace,<br />
~Brooke</p>
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		<title>By: Safiya Outlines</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Safiya Outlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam Alaikum,

You see, I thought the purpose of this programme was to show what life as a Muslim woman was really like, not how some upper class Arab women like to shop.

Brizzle - Actually, while Muslims are not a monolith, interpretation of Islam is not that varied. All over the world you will find Muslims praying five times a day in exactly the same manner, reading the same Qur&#039;an, attending the same Friday Prayers. 

 While Armani Zain&#039;s programme is meant to be a light hearted look, I feel it is a wasted opportunity. The biggest misconceptions about Muslims are concerning what Muslims actually believe. When there are many people who do not even believe that Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians, I don&#039;t feel that telling them about hair removal is a massive priority. Another major problem concerning the portrayal of Muslims is that culture is often confused with religion, which is major trap this programme falls into.

A telephone is not a vegetable, likewise drinking alcohol is not Islamic,  pointing that out is not being judgemental, it&#039;s being factual.

Amira - So if Muslim women were seen as fashionable, all our problems would be solved. Is that really what you think? 

You don&#039;t get it do you? I don&#039;t want to have to pretend to be something and someone I&#039;m not to be accepted. I don&#039;t want to pretend that fashion and society are more  important then what Allah The Almighty has laid down in the Qur&#039;an. There is mass fearmongering against Muslims because people do not know Islam or what Muslims believe. 

Wearing fashionable hijab might make it feel easier to wear, but it won&#039;t keep it on your head, because fashionable or not there will always be people who want to remove it. Geert Wilders didn&#039;t produce &#039;fitnah&#039; because Muslim women are unfashionable.

It&#039;s the &quot;poor small minded people&quot; (and that is no way to speak about your brothers and sisters in Islam) who you have to thank for the fact you can still wear your hijab, that there are increasing prayer faciliites, mosques and legislation to protect you from discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam Alaikum,</p>
<p>You see, I thought the purpose of this programme was to show what life as a Muslim woman was really like, not how some upper class Arab women like to shop.</p>
<p>Brizzle &#8211; Actually, while Muslims are not a monolith, interpretation of Islam is not that varied. All over the world you will find Muslims praying five times a day in exactly the same manner, reading the same Qur&#8217;an, attending the same Friday Prayers. </p>
<p> While Armani Zain&#8217;s programme is meant to be a light hearted look, I feel it is a wasted opportunity. The biggest misconceptions about Muslims are concerning what Muslims actually believe. When there are many people who do not even believe that Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians, I don&#8217;t feel that telling them about hair removal is a massive priority. Another major problem concerning the portrayal of Muslims is that culture is often confused with religion, which is major trap this programme falls into.</p>
<p>A telephone is not a vegetable, likewise drinking alcohol is not Islamic,  pointing that out is not being judgemental, it&#8217;s being factual.</p>
<p>Amira &#8211; So if Muslim women were seen as fashionable, all our problems would be solved. Is that really what you think? </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get it do you? I don&#8217;t want to have to pretend to be something and someone I&#8217;m not to be accepted. I don&#8217;t want to pretend that fashion and society are more  important then what Allah The Almighty has laid down in the Qur&#8217;an. There is mass fearmongering against Muslims because people do not know Islam or what Muslims believe. </p>
<p>Wearing fashionable hijab might make it feel easier to wear, but it won&#8217;t keep it on your head, because fashionable or not there will always be people who want to remove it. Geert Wilders didn&#8217;t produce &#8216;fitnah&#8217; because Muslim women are unfashionable.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the &#8220;poor small minded people&#8221; (and that is no way to speak about your brothers and sisters in Islam) who you have to thank for the fact you can still wear your hijab, that there are increasing prayer faciliites, mosques and legislation to protect you from discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Brizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 09:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read your comments with some interest.  I cant see why, when Islam is so widely interpreted by Muslims all over the world, that you find fault with Amani Zane&#039;s perspective.

If there are Muslims in Egypt acting in a way that doesnt suit you, is it your place to judge them or if their approach be shown on TV?

I have found this series most interesting and well presented.  I did not think the purpose of the series was to represent Islam or be Islamic, but to see how SOME  Muslims from a range of middle east countries approach fashion.

What did you want from this program?  Go and make one yourself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read your comments with some interest.  I cant see why, when Islam is so widely interpreted by Muslims all over the world, that you find fault with Amani Zane&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>If there are Muslims in Egypt acting in a way that doesnt suit you, is it your place to judge them or if their approach be shown on TV?</p>
<p>I have found this series most interesting and well presented.  I did not think the purpose of the series was to represent Islam or be Islamic, but to see how SOME  Muslims from a range of middle east countries approach fashion.</p>
<p>What did you want from this program?  Go and make one yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: amira shaddad</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>amira shaddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 00:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s on reading the comments about the programme it is visible that the critiques are either converts or non muslims and the ones who are muslim are probably old and therefore set in their ways. i hope i dont upset you poor small minded people but obviously you do not realise how important it is for us young muslims growing up in a westernised society where many of my friends are from all cultures which i dont feel  i should have to dress like an old woman and that i can wear my hijab and be fashionable with my friends. Amani Zein has picked up on her issues as growing up and has admitted how she has felt and its people like the critiques above which keeps the muslims out of almost everything. nearly everything these days on tv are about india and their fashion  and muslims are only the  do wrongs or terrorists a change of publicity is exactly what is needed.  maybe  its about time women had fashion tips and ideas from other muslim countries. i agree the programme showed girls in a night club but she only showed what was there so why shouldnt it be shown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s on reading the comments about the programme it is visible that the critiques are either converts or non muslims and the ones who are muslim are probably old and therefore set in their ways. i hope i dont upset you poor small minded people but obviously you do not realise how important it is for us young muslims growing up in a westernised society where many of my friends are from all cultures which i dont feel  i should have to dress like an old woman and that i can wear my hijab and be fashionable with my friends. Amani Zein has picked up on her issues as growing up and has admitted how she has felt and its people like the critiques above which keeps the muslims out of almost everything. nearly everything these days on tv are about india and their fashion  and muslims are only the  do wrongs or terrorists a change of publicity is exactly what is needed.  maybe  its about time women had fashion tips and ideas from other muslim countries. i agree the programme showed girls in a night club but she only showed what was there so why shouldnt it be shown.</p>
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		<title>By: amira shaddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>amira shaddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 23:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i enjoy watching women in black, as a young muslim it helps me be proud to be muslim. Iam only 15 years old and i enjoy fashion,  watching the programme has given me great ideas for wearing my hijab and styles especially from the egypt programme has given me great tips to wear my clothes in a very stylish and fashionable muslim way thank you Amani bring more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i enjoy watching women in black, as a young muslim it helps me be proud to be muslim. Iam only 15 years old and i enjoy fashion,  watching the programme has given me great ideas for wearing my hijab and styles especially from the egypt programme has given me great tips to wear my clothes in a very stylish and fashionable muslim way thank you Amani bring more.</p>
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		<title>By: MMB</title>
		<link>http://getoutlines.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/outlines-review-women-in-black-bbc2/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>MMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a muslim convert I have to say that I have not seen very much in this programme that is &#039;Islamic&#039;.  I agree that alot of muslims in the world confuse Islam with tradition, and as a convert I&#039;m happy that I don&#039;t have that issue.

In last nights episode, the presenter was clearly showing muslims in Eqypt that were in a bar, dancing, smoking and drinking alcohol.  My arguement is that if these people (men and women) were true muslims, they wouldn&#039;t be worried about being on camera and being caught by their families, they would be petrified about the punishment that Allah will inflict on them on the day of judgement.  Putting on a hijab and abaya in public and then committing these dreadful sins in private has to be one of the strongest examples of &#039;hypocrites&#039;.

I appreciate that I am in a country where I am free to practice whichever religion I choose, but what&#039;s the point in doing something unless you put your whole heart and sole into it???  I pray that Allah guides these lost people before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a muslim convert I have to say that I have not seen very much in this programme that is &#8216;Islamic&#8217;.  I agree that alot of muslims in the world confuse Islam with tradition, and as a convert I&#8217;m happy that I don&#8217;t have that issue.</p>
<p>In last nights episode, the presenter was clearly showing muslims in Eqypt that were in a bar, dancing, smoking and drinking alcohol.  My arguement is that if these people (men and women) were true muslims, they wouldn&#8217;t be worried about being on camera and being caught by their families, they would be petrified about the punishment that Allah will inflict on them on the day of judgement.  Putting on a hijab and abaya in public and then committing these dreadful sins in private has to be one of the strongest examples of &#8216;hypocrites&#8217;.</p>
<p>I appreciate that I am in a country where I am free to practice whichever religion I choose, but what&#8217;s the point in doing something unless you put your whole heart and sole into it???  I pray that Allah guides these lost people before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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